Lessons for selling in good – and bad – times

by Paul Sparks on August 25, 2010

Neil Rackham has built a strong international reputation in the global business community as a speaker, writer, and seminal thinker on sales force effectiveness.

Three of his books have appeared on the New York Times best-seller list, and his works are translated into over 50 languages.  Recently he has been named by the Speaker’s Bureau as one of 2009’s ‘9 Business Speakers you need to know’, and was included in The Speakers Group list of ‘8 High-impact Speakers’.He is Visiting Professor of Sales and Marketing at Portsmouth University and a Visiting Professor at Cranfield University.

I’ve had a number of conversations with Neil recently, and one of the topics which I know many have asked to hear about is “lessons from past recessions”.  In this discussion, Neil outlines 3 things that salespeople and sales managers should focus on – in good times as well as bad.

Neil, could you please give us some background about recessions of the past – and things we should focus on in more difficult times?

Let me start by just talking about the specifics of the selling in the economy we’re in, because that’s a good starting point.  It so happens if you look at people selling today, less than 20% of them had ever before sold in a real recession.  It’s a sign of how long that prosperous boom went on.

And now, we’ve got to the point where, frankly, people are making a lot of mistakes.  And I’ve gone into my research files.  In the ‘70s, ‘80s, ‘90s even, I did a lot of foundation research into what makes people successful in selling.  As it turns out, a big piece of that was done in a fairly bad recession, particularly the recession of the 1980s.  And I’ve gone back into those research files and looked at the mistakes people made.  And I’m just going to raise those as an opener here.  Because I think exactly those same mistakes are being made by sales people, sales managers, and by sales forces all across the world today.  And I’d like to in particular raise three of them and talk about why they’re such problems and what to do about it.

So let me being with number one.  In hard times, sales people try harder.  Now, that doesn’t sound as though that’s a particular sin.  That sounds like it’s a sensible thing to do.  They try to be more active, to make more calls, to knock on a few more doors, to try to open up more opportunities, because that seems the best way of dealing with hard times.  We haven’t got enough business going in, so let’s go out and beat the streets for a bit more. 

Well, the issue is – what’s wrong with that?  Because you might think that’s actually the smartest strategy you could adopt.  In fact, in certain cases, it is.  We did studies in the recession of the ‘80s, where, for example, we had one company in New York that was selling office supplies. They had a new Vice President of Sales who said – I want you to make twice as many calls a day.  And in fact, sales went up by 40%.  So, in that case, the strategy of let’s go out and make more calls, let’s work that bit harder, turned out to be very, very successful.

But, now let’s look at some other cases.  What we found is that if you’re in a very large sale – the kind of sale which usually can’t be completed in one call, and in fact may make two, three, or five calls to complete – things are different.  When you make more calls, you actually reduce your sales.  We did studies of this in Motorola and found that happening there.  We looked at it in a dozen other companies.  The same thing happened.  Continue Reading…

{ 0 comments }

Does poaching star sales performers really work?

by Paul Sparks on August 20, 2010

It’s so tempting isn’t it – employ the sales guy or gal from the opposition company that are setting the world on fire.  Then all our problems will be solved.  Sales figures will soar, and, as managers, we’ll go from zero to hero just by poaching that star performer.

Or will we?

There are lots of reasons that people become star sales performers.  Perhaps they’re good at what they do.  Perhaps they’ve succeeded with the support of a great team and an effective sales process.  Maybe the products they’ve been selling have been best in class.  They could have inherited a well serviced customer base.  They could be really hard workers, or, maybe … they just got lucky where they’ve been.

So is it worth taking a risk on that unknown, but (supposedly) successful sales person?

Some recent research in the realm of sports provides evidence that often a start performance in one environment (or team) is difficult to reproduce in another environment (or team).

Before we look at this research – let’s consider what we can learn from the cradle of entertainment success – Hollywood.

Film producers often rely on stars to sell movies.  Sometimes it works – but sometimes it doesn’t.  Consider these titles in a list of some of the biggest box office bombs of all time (with their losses adjusted to reflect 2008 US$)*:

Cutthroat Island, released 1995, (lost $146M+)

Town & Country, released 2001, (lost $115M+)

Heaven’s Gate, released 1980, (lost $104M+)

Ishtar, released 1987, (lost $76M+)

Hudson Hawk, released 1991, (lost $75M+)

Now here’s a list of some of the “stars” that lent their services to these films:

  • Geena Davis & Matthew Modine (Cutthroat Island)
  • Warren Beatty, Diane Keaton & Goldie Hawn (Town & Country)
  • Jeff Bridges, John Hurt & Joseph Cotton (Heaven’s Gate)
  • Warren Beatty & Dustin Hoffman (Ishtar)
  • Bruce Willis, Andie MacDowell & Richard E Grant (Hudson Hawk)

These films all lost a lot of money – but were they really all that bad?  In some cases, this maybe so.  In other cases – according to the critics – the films weren’t all that bad, and not deserving of the fate which awaited them.

And the stars involved weren’t a bunch of nobodies and non-performers either.  Consider these facts:

Geena Davis had already received a best supporting actress Oscar, and had starred in the highly acclaimed Thelma and Louise only a couple of years before her involvement in Cutthroat Island.

Warren Beatty had an established career – including numerous nominations and awards for acting, direction, writing and production.  Amongst many others, he won the Academy Award for Best Director for Reds in 1981, and great critical acclaim for Bulworth (as writer, producer & director) in 1998.  The rest of the team in Town & Country also had a string of successful releases and numerous awards on their resumes before (and after) their involvement in Town & Country.

John Hurt, an accomplished theatrical actor before he moved to film, received huge acclaim – including a BAFTA award and Golden Globe and Oscar nominations – for his role in The Elephant Man, which was released in the same year as Heaven’s Gate.

Dustin Hoffman had huge commercial and critical success before his involvement in Ishtar.  Only a couple of years earlier he received the Best Actor Academy Award for his role in Kramer vs Kramer, and would achieve this award again the following year for his performance in Rain Man.

Bruce Willis established himself as a popular actor with the Moonlighting television series in the late 1980s.  He made the move to film and had huge commercial success with Die Hard and Die Hard 2, which were released in the years immediately before his involvement in Hudson Hawk.

So, clearly, it wasn’t simply the presence of these stars themselves that caused the films to bomb at the box office – and some had even achieved critical acclaim from reviewers and critics.  And – in contrast – there have been many, many movies which have achieved box office success, where the critics have been less than complimentary.

So – here are some lessons from this lesson in Hollywood reality that we can apply in our world of sales:

  • Star power alone will not guarantee success
  • Past success does not predict future success
  • Success in a marketplace is complex – the rules don’t always work

Before we look at our sales teams – let’s look at what we can learn from the world of sport.

In a recent MIT Sloan Management Review article (“When ‘Stars’ Migrate, Do They Still Perform Like Stars?”**) the authors Boris Groysberg, Lex Sant & Robin Abrahams look at recent research on recruiting high performers in the world of professional football.

What the authors look at is a vexing alternative to the portability of people and ask if “positions” are portable.  This is extremely important to the sales manager looking to recruit new salespeople.  Are there circumstances where some sales positions are simply not as portable as others?  If this is the case, the quest for star performers must be viewed in a new light.

Let’s take a closer look at footballers.

Codes of football which involve carrying the ball, have a range of roles and functions within the team.

In American football, a key attacking role is undertaken by wide receivers.  Wide receivers are in attacking roles, and need sufficient speed and agility to elude defensive players.  But they also need to run particular routes based on timing and calculated distance, and interact with their quarterback, who, like themselves, is under constant pressure from defenders intent upon stopping them cold.  It requires a blend of individual skill – and understanding of particular team plays. Continue Reading…

{ 0 comments }

Why salespeople must look to India & China

by Paul Sparks on July 25, 2010

I’m a middle-aged white guy who lives in Australia.

In my lifetime, the focus for trade and cultural exchange for Australia has shifted from the UK & the US to, firstly, Japan, and now more widely to other parts of Asia.  China, India, Vietnam, Indonesia and other Asian countries now play a role of growing importance in our lives.

China is Australia’s largest customer for resources.  India supplies a growing skilled workforce for many businesses – large and small.  Our universities are graced by the presence of many students from all parts of Asia.

Intuitively, we know that the rise of Asia will continue.  But how fast will the rise of China and India in particular be?  And what might this mean?

Hans Rosling is a professor of global health at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute.  His current work focuses on dispelling myths about the so-called developing world.  One way he does this is through the engaging use of statistics.  Here’s a talk Hans gave recently at a TED conference where he extrapolates – to the day – the point in the future when China & India will emerge as being financially and health wise the equivalent of the current economic giants.

Watch it – be intrigued by his delightful use of statistics – then ponder the implications for your sales future.

Find out more about Hans Rosling and his work here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rosling

And have a look at Gapminder – where you can access the software Hans uses in his presentations:

http://www.gapminder.org/

Thanks for reading this post – Paul Sparks, Sales Effectiveness Australasia.

“Taking you beyond sales training and keeping you informed about the latest ideas, trends, innovation, research & best practice in professional selling and sales management”

{ 0 comments }

Defining and achieving measurable sales success using a mega planning approach

by Paul Sparks 17 July 2010

What makes us successful as salespeople?
Is it simply the attainment of sales budgets and targets?
Or are there other elements which are critical to our long term success?
Dr Roger Kaufman is considered to be one of the most influential figures in current educational practice and design, and has been a leader in the area of performance [...]

Read the full article...

Highlights from the June 18 Sales Effectiveness breakfast

by Paul Sparks 7 July 2010

Nearly 80 people interested in learning the latest ideas, trends and innovation in professional selling and sales management joined me recently at Luna Park in Sydney for the third Sales Effectiveness breakfast event for 2010.  As with previous events inthis series, the feedback was fantastic.
I hope to see you for the second series in 2010 [...]

Read the full article...

Is Australia ready for a Masters Degree in Professional Selling and Sales Management?

by Paul Sparks 13 June 2010

According to ABS statistics, nearly a million Australians work in the field loosely called “sales”.  If we add the large group of managers responsible for the performance of this group, plus the tens of thousands of small to medium sized business owners directly involved with the sales function, we could comfortably assume that well over 1.5 million Australians [...]

Read the full article...

Highlights from the May 14 Sales Effectiveness breakfast

by Paul Sparks 3 June 2010

People interested in learning the latest ideas, trends and innovation in professional selling and sales management joined me recently at Luna Park in Sydney for the second Sales Effectiveness breakfast event for 2010.  The feedback was fantastic – I hope to see you in June.
Till then, here are some highlights from May for you.
Julia Palmer.  [...]

Read the full article...